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Town Hall Meeting - Speeding

March 18, 2008

Meeting Minutes

 

 

President Claude Oliver called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. 

 

INTRODUCTIONS:

Claude welcomed members of the Semiahmoo Resort Association (SRA) to the first ever town-hall meeting and thanked them for attending.  He then introduced the following Board members: Bill Bradfield, Vice President, Carol Selby, Secretary/Treasurer, Bob Williams, Director and Brett Eaton, Director.

 

The number of attendees totaled 34; and is summarized as to what street they reside on.

            St. Andrews Green neighborhood:

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Wood Duck Way (10)

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Canvasback Road (6)

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Great Horned Owl Lane (5)

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Osprey Road (3)

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Bald Eagle Drive (2)

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Goshawk Road (1)

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Snowy Owl Lane (1)

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Quail Run (1)

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Snow Goose Lane (1)

Drayton Hillside neighborhood:

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Night Heron Drive (3)

Prestwick Village neighborhood:

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Sandpiper Lane (1)

 

Claude said there would be several more town-hall meetings and that dates are yet to be determined.  He said this is a good forum for hearing what others are saying and for the Board to hear the thoughts of the membership.  The focus of the meeting was speeding.  He then asked that the residents state their name and address when addressing the Board.    Bill Bradfield was introduced and served as moderator.

 

SUMMARY OF SPEEDING ISSUES:

Bill gave a brief chronology of the issue of speeding which has been ongoing for several years.  He referenced letters that have been sent to the SRA membership and businesses that work behind the gates.  In 2006, the Board entered into an exclusive agreement with the City of Blaine Police Department which gives them the authority to patrol behind the gates of Semiahmoo; and to issue speeding tickets, which began in early 2007.  Today, the issue of speeding is still an open item at Board meetings.  Traffic calming measures such as speed bumps/humps; traffic circles and islands has been reviewed.  The Board is currently against installing speed bumps as they do not think this is the best solution for traffic calming.   

 

As a cost effective measure, two temporary stop signs were placed on Wood Duck Way and Bufflehead Court.  He said that the Board has received emails from residents saying they are in favor of the new signs and think that they are helping with the speeding problems on Wood Duck Way.

 

Bill then opened the floor to comments and questions in regard to speeding. 

 

COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS:

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How many speeders are there; is there a real problem?

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Speeding is not a unique problem specific to Semiahmoo; it happens everywhere!

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Who are the speeders:  Residents?  Contractors?  Guests?

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Generally, people do not stop at the stop signs; particularly at the intersection of Snow Goose Lane and Wood Duck Way.  Some people are stopping at the new stop signs on Wood Duck Way and Bufflehead Court

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Stop signs “don’t work”!

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Ticket those who run stop signs

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Fines levied at Birch Bay Village were referenced.  Should the SRA impose fines for speeding? 

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Increase patrols by the Blaine Police Department (BPD).  Currently the BPD is short staffed.  Two new officers will be out of the  academy this week

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Cost of speeding tickets issued by the BPD are expensive - $114 for 5 mph over the speed limit and go up from there

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When BPD is present; speeding cars slow down because they see the police car

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Hire a private security firm to issue speeding tickets

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List the names of speeding offenders in the community newsletter

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List the streets and the number of citations issued by the BPD in the newsletter

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What time of day is the speeding worse?  Early morning and late afternoon seems to be the worst (people coming and going to work)

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Is the 20 miles per hour (mph) speed limit too low?  Should it be raised to 25 mph?

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Gravel walking paths are worthless; thus adults and kids walk/ride bikes in the street; opposed to raising speed limit

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If a contractor is found speeding, should they be made to park outside of the gates and walk to the job site?

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Report companies who are speeding to the SRA office so that SRA staff can contact company managers to make them aware of their employees’ speeding

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Delivery companies and landscape companies rushing to and from appointments were mentioned as speeding offenders

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Install traffic cams to monitor streets; record license plate numbers and speeds; supply a report to the BPD for follow up and possible ticketing

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Begin a “traffic watch” program (the SRA would need to purchase a radar gun)

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People don’t want to “tattle” or falsely accuse their neighbors

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Begin a “good neighbor” policy and possibly solve the problem without spending funds for patrols, etc.  Talk with your neighbor if you have a concern on how they are driving; issue a prize for “best neighbor”.  A comment was made that this has been tried, and the person who was speeding was not receptive; “who are you to challenge my driving habits”?

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Begin using a “complaint form” that has to be filled out and signed by the person filing the complaint so that the accused can see who has filed the complaint.  The question was posed: “then what is done with the form”?  A comment was made that it could be given to the BPD for follow up

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The BPD is willing to loan their radar gun to residents and train them to use it.  One resident may become certified to use the radar gun and could then issue a report to the BPD so that they could contact the offender who was speeding.  A copy of the report could also be provided to the SRA office.  This information could be put in the community newsletter

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Check with other communities to see what lessons they have learned about speeding.  The audience member who suggested this will contact the SRA office with contact information for their former homeowners association in Seattle

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Has a recent traffic count been taken on Wood Duck Way?  The last study on file is from 2006.  Should another study be made?

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Install a “round-about” on sections of streets that have a long stretch; concentrate on Wood Duck Way

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Add stop signs on Wood Duck Way at Quail Run

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Paint the pavement with lettering that says “Slow – 20 mph”, rather than installing stop signs

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If the new stop sign on Wood Duck Way (south bound) becomes permanent, branches need to be trimmed

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The resident who lives near the new stop sign (north bound) has noticed more noise due to the “stop & go” of vehicles

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Speeding is a community wide problem; begin standing up to the offenders who are misbehaving; we do not want to see someone get hurt

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People talking on cellular phones is a problem because they are not paying attention to their speed

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A resident provided the following statistics on the effectiveness of the new stop signs on Wood Duck Way:

6/30/07    32% traveling 20 mph or less

                            68% traveling 21 mph or more

3/16/08    53% traveling 20 mph or less

                            47% traveling 21 mph or more

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Ask the City of Blaine to donate the Semiahmoo Fire Station for a sub-group of the BPD so they can respond more rapidly to incidents behind the gates

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Residents whose property is affected by the south bound stop sign are opposed to relocating their mail box to accommodate the stop sign.  Can the street be painted or some other location found for the sign? 

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If the stop sign is to be placed permanently, a new white “stop line” would be painted on the street (similar to the other locations throughout the community)

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The web link [http://www.digitalthreads.com/utarpt/utarpt5.html] for speed humps/bumps referenced California law.  Has Washington law been checked?

 

MISCELLENOUS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:

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When will Drayton Harbor Road be fixed?  The reply was “soon”

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Workers going to the Carnoustie site should be using Gate 2, not Gate 3.  The policy is that workers are to use the gate closest to the jobsite

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Could the SRA ask the City of Blaine to repaint the crosswalk from Gate 3 to the path along Semiahmoo Parkway?  The reply was “yes” and it was mentioned that the city will be performing work at Semiahmoo this summer, especially near the Spit

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A car has been reported speeding on Blue Grouse Way (in the Stonehaven neighborhood) around 2:00 a.m.  This has been reported to the BPD.  A question as to whether it is the paper delivery person was raised.  The SRA office will contact the paper carriers who service the Semiahmoo neighborhoods and inquire as to whether the deliver person is indeed speeding and making lots of noise.  If the offender is identified, they will be asked to fix their car to eliminate noise pollution!

 

This concluded the comments and question period.

 

Claude asked for a show of hands of those who are in favor of permanently installing the stop signs on Wood Duck Way and Bufflehead Court.  Ten (10) people raised their hand.  He then asked for those opposed and ten (10) people raised their hand.  The Board will continue to review this issue at an upcoming Board meeting.

 

The audience was thanked for coming and for sharing their thoughts.  They were told that notes from the meting would be distributed to the overall SRA membership as soon as possible.  The Board will continue to hold town-hall meetings in the future.

 

Bill was thanked for doing an outstanding job as moderator!

 

In closing, Claude told the audience that their comments and questions will be reviewed by the Board.  He also encouraged audience members to talk with Board members after the meeting to offer any new ideas they may have for the Board’s consideration.

  

SUMMARY OF EMAILS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING:

Ø      There were two (2) in favor of the new stop signs on Wood Duck Way and two (2) opposed (don’t think that they are effective)

Ø      There were three (3) in favor of installing speed bumps and two (2) opposed

Ø      Possibly add another three-way stop at Quail Run

Ø      Install additional signage announcing that the streets are patrolled by the BPD

Ø      Speed Watch Program.  Report commercial vehicles that are speeding to the SRA office.  SRA staff would then contact the company and speak to the owner/manager.  Convey concerns to neighbors who are observed speeding.   If the driver is unknown, contact the BPD with license plate number for appropriate action

Ø      Continue placing the “Radar speed sign” on the streets behind the gates to make people aware of how fast they are traveling

Ø      Consider adding traffic calming islands

Ø      Schedule meetings later in the day to accommodate those who work from “9 to 5”.

 

ADJOURN: The meeting adjourned at 5:30 p.m. 

 

 

 

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